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@pen_inv
Pendulum Investments
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New investor interested in dividend focused investing and any other long term strategies. I'm more interested in the basic "why's" of investing more than specific companies or analyses.
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What are everyone's thoughts on $TSLA's performance the past week or two? I haven't seen much anyone talking about it in the community here. Is there justification for the large increase in price or is it all just hype?

Short term $TSLA is always just hype but long term it makes complete sense. Similar to $AMZN over the years, the fundamentals make it seem overpriced but it will probably grow into those numbers so waiting just means the price will be higher (unless purchases are made during corrections or bear markets).
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A Little Impractical Conjecture
Those of you interested in serious analysis that will help you become a more successful trader, kindly keep scrolling.

Otherwise, I have somewhat of an unrealistic question to pose to the community:

Owning stock has a few intrinsic benefits that I can think of as follows:

  1. Rights to receive dividend payments
  2. Rights to a share of the left over assets should the company terminate operations
  3. Rights to vote

I would like to consider the value of owning a non-dividend paying stock as a retail investor. Without a dividend, a stock should have intrinsic value due to the right to vote and the right to assets upon termination of the company. Yet, from my understanding, the average common stock owner gets next to nothing upon termination of a company, and the average retail investor owns such a miniscule share of a company as to render their vote meaningless.

So what is the value of owning a non-dividend paying stock that will likely never pay dividends such as $GOOG or $AAPL?

Obviously, in the real world, such stocks are valuable because others are willing to buy them. They are valuable because we all agree they are valuable just as we all agree the U.S. dollar has value even though it is a useless green piece of paper. I think it interesting though that we peg the value of such stocks to the performance of their company when the company's performance has no impact on the intrinsic value of the stock.

Is there something to this line of thought or am I missing something (or am I just crazy haha)?

One potential reason could be special dividends. For example as a former Enghouse shareholder, I was very happy when the board decided to give us back some (pretty significant) cash last year, as they had more than they needed for growth. Same for Constellation Software, they have paid special dividends in the past.

So even a company that doesn't pay or has no intention of paying regular dividends can still return cash to shareholders at some point in the future.
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I wanted to probe everyone's thoughts on experimenting different approaches to investing with stock market simulators. I personally have played around a bit with the simulator on: www.investopedia.com

Does anyone else ever use a simulator or have any other methods for testing their strategy before fully committing?

I've had a quick read of the simulator on Investopedia and it looks like it's akin to paper trading? I understand why paper trading is there and there are some benefits to it but ultimately I'm not a fan.

I tried it a long time ago, a while before I started trading, and it almost put me off completely. Because it wasn't real, I didn't feel compelled to find out why a trade didn't work or did work. And it can't prepare new traders for the feeling of your heart plummeting after your first red day. I found that once I started risking even comparatively small amounts (£5), I was infinitely more interested in how I could shape the outcome in a better way.

For an experienced trader who wants to try a new system it might be a different story, but I'd probably argue it's better to evolve and tweak an in-place system rather than "system hop".
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Recently just made my account and am getting used to the community. I'm very intrigued by dividend focused investing. Any thoughts from yall about the value of dividends verses non-dividend paying stocks?

@josh10/07/2021
I know @emf has a significant percentage of his portfolio in dividend-focused assets. A great follow too!
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