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The Healthcare system is a SCAM and it needs to be disrupted by tech
A few months back I went to the ER suspecting my baby had Covid. Got told by a nurse that they could test him but regardless if he had it there was nothing they could do because of his age, so I refused the test and left within 5 min.
COST: $1300! The Healthcare system is a SCAM!

On a related note, does anyone has any tips on how to successfully fight a California hospital bill?
Ben's avatar
You can call and negotiate any bill.

In the future try seeing a GP or urgent care for non-emergent things, it’s cheaper.

I’m with you medicine needs improvement. IMO tech isn’t the solution for expensive healthcare. Healthcare is expensive. Doctors train for a decade. Nurses and IV’s and monitors and BP cuffs all cost. If you went to the ER in most European countries it would be covered by nationalized health care. Same care. No bill.
Ian MacLean's avatar
@rpinvestments agreed. I’m not sure what the ER could do were it a non-presenting case anyway—definitely a good place to only go when you really have to.
David's avatar
@rpinvestments I definitely agree that Docs and healthcare staff in general should get paid and get paid a good amount for what they go through, but I also think the lack of transparency when it comes to price among other things create the perfect storm for outrageous bills like what happened to me. I was not even seen by a doctor, left with no tests or treatments other than "keep doing what youre doing", and the whole visit lasted less than 10 minutes
David's avatar
@avid6ix I feel like a combination of the price transparency $GDRX model and widespread/better telehealth could help a lot
Ben's avatar
@avid6ix price transparency is something I am for. Definitely. Sometimes I don’t even know how much a patient will pay for a medicine or if it will be covered by their insurance when I call it in to a pharmacy
Ian MacLean's avatar
I don’t if tech can manage that. It’s a captive system. It’s a legalized cartel. The insurance and pharmaceutical elements in particular have corrupted and corroded near everything.

We need to just return to the doctor-patient relationship and cash. Doctors will double their available time (giving them time even to read research beyond Pharma inserts) and make more money. Patients will save inordinate amounts of money & time and could invest in some rational insurance coverage merely for catastrophic cases. It’s a win-win.
David's avatar
@madbadetc I do think tech could alleviate some of the problems, for example a combination of the price transparency $GDRX model and widespread/better telehealth could help a lot. But like you said, since they are a cartel I dont even know if there is enough incentives for them to change

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